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Jan 25, 2013 10:00pm PST
knows. >> gavin: why do we put up with this? why do we keep electing folks who refuse on both sides of the political aisle to step up and be transparent and more accountable. are we too focused on others things? our lives are too complex to get down to this level and granular detail of what is happening and not happening in washington, d.c.? a lot of folks, an extraordinary number of people know what you do but most folks don't know what the sunlight foundation does? how do we scale that. >> until campaigns become as important as jobs and healthcare and clean air then it will always be a secondary issue and they will vote based on those larger issues. and the campaign finance issue has become such a sort of cynical response by the public that they're not going to vote on that. they're going to vote for the politician who is going to help them get their kid a better education or get their mother in a better situation for elder care facility. >> gavin: the frustration for me is you've got extraordinary people. i really believe this in politics who are trapped by an extraordinarily bad
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